[FFmpeg-user] Glossary: Nyquist

[Eduardo Alarcón]

Mostly the noun/adjective part, the part [1] about SD media and mastering,
seems to be anecdotal information more than a definition of what is the
Nyquist principle, you say that the images are undersampled, but what does
it mean? what is the impact, the images look blurry?, may be you defined
"undersampling" in other part


El jue., 1 oct. 2020 a las 11:18, Mark Filipak (ffmpeg) (<markfilipak at bog.us>)
escribió:

> On 10/01/2020 01:20 AM, Eduardo Alarcón wrote:
> > Nyquist is a noun, not an adjective, for Harry Nyquist. ...
>
> Hi Eduardo, Thanks.
>
> Well, technically, a noun used as an adjective: "Nyquist sampling", makes
> it an adjective, but no
> matter.
>
> What if I narrow the scope to solely the sampling theory? thusly:
>
> Nyquist sampling: The principle [1] that, to most faithfully reproduce
>    an image at a given digital display's resolution, samples must be
>    made at or above twice the display's resolution, both horizontally &
>    vertically [2].
>    [1] The Nyquist principle applies to film sampling and to digital
>        cameras, but, provided that resolution is unchanged, not to
>        transcoding (because the transcoder inputs are already digital).
>        As proved by the improved appearance of SD media made from 2K
>        samples, SD mastering prior to the advent of 2K sampling (e.g.
>        DVDs mastered before the advent of HD) generally ignored the
>        Nyquist principle and were undersampled. HDs sampled at 2K and
>        UHDs sampled at 4K are likewise undersampled.
>    [2] As a convenience, the Nyquist threshold is currently (in 2020)
>        specified solely by horizontal sample count rounded up to whole
>        kilo-samples (2K, 4K, 8K).
>                          display    Nyquist threshold
>        UHD 16:9-2160:  3840 x 2160         8K
>             4:3-2160:  2880 x 2160         8K
>         HD 16:9-1080:  1920 x 1080         4K
>             4:3-1080:  1440 x 1080         4K
>         SD  16:9-576:  1024 x 576          4K
>              4:3-576:   768 x 576          2K
>             16:9-480:   853 x 480          2K
>              4:3-480:   640 x 480          2K
>
> >... The Nyquist–Shannon
> > sampling theorem is applicable to analog to digital conversion of signals
> > (continuous to discrete), images are a type of signal.
>
> Well, I thought that was what I wrote. What doesn't work for you?
>
> The reason I wrote "both horizontally & vertically" was to resolve that,
> unlike sampling a
> 1-dimensional (serial) signal, 2-dimensional sampling (e.g. from film) or
> within a camera, requires
> the Nyquist principle be applied in both dimensions. But perhaps that's
> not what you find lacking.
> Could you suggest different wording maybe?
>
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