[FFmpeg-user] Problem concatenating segments

[George R. Welch]

Well, that's a cool suggestion.  Will have to wait till tomorrow to try 
it out, though.

My prediction is that it will just move the glitch from the end of my 
part to the beginning, but I'll find out.

Thanks,

--George

On 1/25/20 1:53 PM, Yellow Penguin wrote:
> You are correct about that.
>
> What happens is that the timestamp is not zero when you cut at a
> non-keyframe when using stream copy, because the keyframe is at time 0.
> With B-frames this can lead to negative timestamps, because the keyframe
> can come after that. This should not be a problem when you only cut at
> I-frames, but in h264 B-frames can reference arbitrary frames that are
> outside the region you cut. If this is the case, concatenating after
> cutting doesn't seem possible without transcoding to me. One thing you
> could try, but this is really a wild hunch, is to alter the timestamps in
> the part that you create so they match the offset in the part you cut from
> the original.
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 8:23 PM George R. Welch <george at grwelch.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the suggestion.
>>
>> As I understand it, filtering and stream copy cannot be used together.
>> Am I wrong?  As I said, I must not transcode the pieces of the original
>> video file I am using.
>>
>> If I could transcode the original, this process would be easy.
>>
>> --George
>>
>> On 1/25/20 1:10 PM, Yellow Penguin wrote:
>>> Try set-pts=0 as a filter
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 5:24 PM George R. Welch <george at grwelch.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I get video files from another division.  It is my task to cut out a
>>>> part of the video, and replace it with a part I create.  The videos I
>>>> receive are h264 with aac audio.  It is very strongly hoped that this
>>>> can be done without re-encoding the parts of the original which we keep.
>>>>
>>>> I have been using ffmpeg for cutting up the file I receive, and I've
>>>> been using the concat demuxer to concatenate the pieces of the original
>>>> with the part I make.  This has worked well (over a dozen times) until
>>>> recently.
>>>>
>>>> In order for concat to work correctly, I take care to make sure the
>>>> video I make fits the one I am inserting it into (same frame rate, refs,
>>>> etc).  I also take care to only cut the original movie at I frames.
>>>>
>>>> I have run into trouble with the most recent job.  When I concatenate
>>>> the parts, there is a slight glitch when it transitions from the part I
>>>> made to the other.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can tell, the only thing that is different from the previous
>>>> runs is that the file I am given is encoded with B frames, whereas that
>>>> had never happened before.
>>>>
>>>> An oddity is that when I cut the original video, the timestamp does not
>>>> begin at zero:
>>>>
>>>> $ ffmpeg -i input.mkv -ss [start-time] -t [duration] -c copy part1.mkv
>>>> [seems to work]
>>>>
>>>> Now look at the result:
>>>>
>>>> $ ffprobe -hide_banner -show_frames -select_streams v part1.mkv
>>>>
>>>> Here is the first frame:
>>>>
>>>> [FRAME]
>>>> media_type=video
>>>> stream_index=0
>>>> key_frame=1
>>>> pkt_pts=1968
>>>> pkt_pts_time=1.968000
>>>> pkt_dts=1968
>>>> pkt_dts_time=1.968000
>>>> best_effort_timestamp=1968
>>>> best_effort_timestamp_time=1.968000
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand why the first frame does not start at zero.  I have
>>>> tried adding "-seek_timestamp 1" but it has no effect.
>>>>
>>>> When I use concat to place this part after my video, then there is a
>>>> glitch at the transition.
>>>>
>>>> However, if I change the flag to the input:
>>>>
>>>> $ ffmpeg -ss [start-time] -i input.mkv -t [duration] -c copy part1.mkv
>>>>
>>>> then ffmpeg generates some errors:
>>>>
>>>> [matroska @ 0x7ffadb028600] failed to avoid negative pts -58 in stream
>> 1.
>>>> Try -avoid_negative_ts 1 as a possible workaround.
>>>>
>>>> Repeating the command with -avoid -avoid_negative_ts 1 still generates
>>>> the same message, and the output is the same.
>>>>
>>>> Now when I look at the first frame it does start at zero, but there is
>>>> still a glitch at the transition after concatenating.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?  Is it impossible to concat segments
>>>> with B frames?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>>
>>>> --George
>>>>
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