[FFmpeg-user] List members behaviour
exwyeorzee at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 13 22:01:56 EEST 2019
>>this sort of bad behaviour."/
>If anyone has an idea, how to deal with that, please write.
I’ll take a stab at it.
We cannot control the behavior of others. We can only control our own behavior.
We might all first look within for solutions that work for us as individuals rather than trying to impose our solutions on others through the list. Angry outbursts backfire.
Humility can solve this issue. Failing that, I’m sure list moderation will if it hasn’t already done so. A public spat is not a FOSS existential crisis. We are free to choose hope. Let’s do that.
If anyone is feeling angry, I’d say diagnose your anger and put out that fire before trying to extinguish it in others. (In my calmer moments anyway that’s how I think)
Remember that the objective here is sharing knowledge. That’s not what has been shared between Reindl and others on this particular matter. It’s off topic. I’m not sure anyone profits from an addictive group adrenaline binge, or from the cortisol that eats away at us all from the inside out long after the rush fades.
The spark only ignited all the gasoline fumes lingering in the air. It’s not the root cause of the flame war, it’s just the trigger. Removing the trigger is far less effective than venting the fumes. Then a spark without fumes is an amusing and harmless flash instead of a disaster.
We are all under stress. I’m sure Reindl’s frustration plus all those frustrated responses to him have their roots deep in the personal lives of those making posts. That’s where the solutions are too, deep inside. Look there.
Give yourself a break. Vent the fumes elsewhere and stay on topic. That’s the best way IMO. I know it’s difficult to control one’s anger in the face of provocation, but ego doesn’t write FOSS software. Anger is a distraction. Keep that in mind and this problem solves itself.
IMHO, offered in the spirit of the FOSS authors who brought me so many amazing benefits that I feel truly blessed by all your generosity.
On Saturday, April 13, 2019, 4:35 AM, Ulf Zibis <Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de> wrote:
Am 11.04.19 um 18:57 schrieb Nicolas George:
> Ulf Zibis (12019-04-11):
>> Even "staff members" in this project seem to do so, see posts in
> One "staff member", please. His behaviour is unacceptable and you are
> welcome to report him to the list administrator.
>> It is good to mention, then accept it and then take a big breathe!
> No, it is not good to accept it. Reindl Harald is being extremely rude,
> he does the exact opposite than he wants other people to do.
I'm not sure, if you misunderstood me. I did not bear on Harald.
I don't know, if he is actively supporting FFmpeg or just using it. But
as I have no cause to communicate with him, I just watch, what happens
I beard on one who is actively supporting FFmpeg, i.e. the 2nd most busy
committer to FFmpeg. I'm really interested in cooperation.
So I see me in the category of potential contributors, Phil has written
/"This holds back open source software in all its forms. It serves to
put off new users who might become useful contributors in time. It
alienates people with useful expertise who are not software engineers.
The problems caused by all of this are highly visible in open source
software in general, and ffmpeg in particular.//
//I don't know what the solution is, but it must necessarily involve
everyone being nicer to each other, and not trying to jusify
unprofessional, discourteous behaviour.//
//I've been saying it for years and I'm going to keep saying it: FOSS
could do so much better than it does, almost solely because of exactly
this sort of bad behaviour."/
If anyone has an idea, how to deal with that, please write.
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