[FFmpeg-user] Dual Xeon VS Haswell-E, maximize fps

[Ryan M]

It is definitely something to think of/consider. Thanks for the input.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Henk D. Schoneveld <belcampo at zonnet.nl>
wrote:

> Size of 1 system 8 * 8.5 * 2.25 inches, so they are very small just a
> little bigger then an Apple Mini.
> So 8 of them doen’t take that much space, you can stack them.
>
> On 29 Sep 2014, at 18:37, Ryan M <rymerrick at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah really the actual space/room is the issue there, not sure where i'd
> > put that.
> > With PPSS, it looks like it distributes the encoding of different files
> > over the available resources, it wouldn't spread a single encoding job
> over
> > them correct?
> Yes that’s correct. If 1 resource becomes free, job done, it takes the
> next file to be done.
> >  I do need a way to automate ffmpeg instances so more jobs
> > can run at the same time.
> You can run as many jobs as you do have CPU cores, with 8 systems being
> DualCore, 16 jobs at once.
> > My jobs aren't just  a bunch of files sitting in
> > a directory, it is querying a db for files that need to be encoded in
> > various ways.
> You could run multiple instances of PPSS, with different encoding
> parameters. You could query your DB for files with ffmpeg parameters X,
> make symlinks to Directory X
> and
> another query for files with parameters Y and make  symlinks to directory Y
> One PPSS instance runs the X and another instance runs the Y symlinks
> directory.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Henk D. Schoneveld <belcampo at zonnet.nl
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Why wouldn’t it be realistic ?
> >> Have a look at https://code.google.com/p/ppss/ to distribute jobs over
> >> the amount of systems you have and works like a charm.
> >> On 29 Sep 2014, at 17:05, Ryan M <rymerrick at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't know that it is realistic to have 8 systems running though.
> If I
> >>> can pay more and have the approx same amount of throughput with one
> >> system,
> >>> that would be better.
> >> In what way would it be better, less room, yes but that’s very expensive
> >> room you pay for in my opinion.
> >>> I just don't want to pay like $4k  more (for the
> >>> Xeon vs Haswell-EP) and only get a few more fps out of it.  If stepping
> >> up
> >>> to Xeon allows ~40fps like Sean said then it is probably worth it.
> >> Thank
> >>> you very much for the input.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Henk D. Schoneveld <
> belcampo at zonnet.nl>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 28 Sep 2014, at 13:13, Henk D. Schoneveld <belcampo at zonnet.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Ryan M <rymerrick at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I am putting together hardware to encode a large and ever growing
> >>>> catalog
> >>>>>> of video using ffmpeg/x264.  Much of the source video is 1080p
> >> ProResHQ.
> >>>>>> Currently I have a box with a Haswell 4770k CPU which gets around
> >> 12-15
> >>>>>> fps, I am of course looking to increase that as much as possible.
> >>>>> Have a look at
> >>>>
> >>
> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-5960X+%40+3.00GHz&id=2332
> >>>>> and compare with
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4770K+%40+3.50GHz&id=1919
> >>>>> or in 1 view
> >>>>> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1919&cmp[]=2364
> >>>>> 7 times the price for less then 2 times the performance.
> >>>>> Spreading the task over more much cheaper CPU’s gives you more bang
> for
> >>>> the buck if realtime encoding isn’t needed.
> >>>>> You could use 8 Dual Celeron systems to get the same performance as 1
> >>>> E5-2690 where CPU cost would be 8x52.45 vs. 1x2299.99 Of course
> >>>> motherboards etc are needed and housing but a low cost MB and Housing
> >> can
> >>>> be bought at < 100.00 a piece. 8*(100+52.45) ~ 1220.00
> >>>>> Saved more then $1.000 And the Xeon still needs a motherboard and
> case
> >>>> of course.
> >>>> The CPU Mark and single thread performance are good indicators for
> >>>> relative ffmpeg encoding speeds. I do have i5 i7 and the named
> Celerons
> >>>> which I compared extensively with the same source files and encoding
> >>>> parameters.
> >>>> Disk I/O isn’t any problem, think of it, 5 times BluRay bitrates
> results
> >>>> in 90Kb/s < 12MB/s. Every modern disk has no problem with that and
> even
> >>>> old-fashioned nics, 100Mb/s can cope with that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Trying to determine if getting the latest dual CPU Xeon (such as
> >> E5-2690
> >>>>>> v3) setup is going to be worth the significant additional cost over
> >> the
> >>>>>> best Haswell-E (Core i7-5960X).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've read lots of articles/posts and it is not clear to me.  I know
> >>>> worth
> >>>>>> is subjective but looking to know if there'll be significant
> increase
> >> in
> >>>>>> fps using 2 Xeons.  I need to justify the $6-7k price tag.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any insight/experience would be appreciated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>> Ryan
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