[FFmpeg-devel] Democratization

[Zhao Zhili]

> On Jan 29, 2025, at 02:21, Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marth64
> 
> while this wasnt a reply to me, some comments from me
> 
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 04:01:17PM -0600, Marth64 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That is what I am imagining when I mean have a meeting, suggesting
>> that maybe we should try a different communication medium that can be
>> facilitated more rapidly.
> 
> The problem I see ATM, is that we have accusations against me
> for things i simply have not done.
> (they also for obvious reasons have no reference to anything)
> And for things i did do, that are presented widely out of proportion
> of reality
> 
> A discussion on IRC could maybe make sense if someone checked what is
> claimed about me first. But then i think we also would be able to
> continue a more calm discussion here
> 
> We cannot really go into a discussion when both sides have wildly
> different oppinions on what has or has not happened.
> 
> Also i must say it (in case i have not done priorly) What is
> done in the last months, is mobbing
> 
> To clarify "explain what mobbing is" ->
> 
>    1. Workplace Mobbing
>        In the workplace, mobbing involves a group of colleagues, managers, or subordinates targeting an individual with behaviors such as:
> 
>        Gossiping, spreading rumors, or ostracizing the person.
>        Constantly criticizing or undermining their work.
>        Excluding them from meetings or decisions.
>        Using intimidation, humiliation, or passive-aggressive tactics to isolate them.
>    This can lead to stress, decreased productivity, and even serious mental and physical health issues for the targeted individual.
> 
> This is a very surprisingly accurate list for the fact i just asked
> what mobbing is (and this also applies to what was done to thilo)
> 
> I dont think starting with a list of accusations against me and then
> discussing about this, or how i "caused it", is the way to handle this.
> 
> About people pointing to me as the cause of something they do.
> Given iam in this project for over 20 years and iam the main author and
> we had a fork long ago. With many people joining back together. There are
> people who have had past hate and present hate towards me.
> Whenever there is an oppertunity, some will point to me as teh
> cause.

I don’t stay long enough to know the history, but I don’t think delving into history
helps the current situation. Let's talk less about history and hatred to avoid creating
a self-fulfilling prophecy.

> It makes sense to look at these and ask "do they point to a real issue?"
> is there something we can learn and improve or is this just dislike towards
> me and are they just asking for me to be "hanged"/"removed".
> 
> And again, some of the things iam hearing, why people are upset, arent even
> true.
> 
> I do belive one big part of some people leaving over the last years is that
> they are not enough in power.
> And a linux like model where they would maintain a subsystem as the
> final authority in their own repository would have avoided them leaving.
> Iam sure everyone will disagree about this, its just what my feeling tells
> me because it works in linux much better than in ffmpeg.
> But then, this is off topic here
> 
> thx
> 
> [...]
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