[FFmpeg-devel] Mailing List Delay

[ffmpegandmahanstreamer at lolcow.email]

On 2021-07-14 09:17, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 7/14/2021 12:27 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
>> Looking at the headers, it looks like the delay happens at Google 
>> before
>> the mail arrives to the mailing-list.
>> 
>> Yours arrived quickly. Mine will too, I guess.
> 
> Sending from GMail, I have had anywhere from instantly, to 1.5 hours 
> delay
> ever since moving to the "new" (Hungarian?) mailing list host. 
> Especially
> when sending via git-send-email.
> 

Oh, that's strange. All my emails always send instantly. Even when i was 
on cock.li which wasn't very reliable (read below).

> I have been bringing this up consstently for years, and been told it's
> a "non-issue", but it is incredibly annoying.
> 
> I am not sure if it's due to Google having issues (trust?) sending to
> out host, or the host having trouble receiving.
> 
That's why i use this email provider and not my main Gmail for mailing 
lists.

I used to use cock.li but they shut down signups. Plus the one i'm using 
(lolcow.email) has a nice threading interface on the web.  I have a 
special email for every mailing list im in (FFmpeg, llvm, qemu, 
gstreamer, freebsd/linux etc..). The nice thing is that you can put them 
in the Gmail or Apple/Android mail app on your phone for easy reading. 
And it also helps stop SPAM mails which i have gotten by posting on 
mailing lists.

It may be a good stopgap solution for some.

> I have also noticed, since switching to this 'new' mysertious mailing
> list host a few years back that a chunk of ffmpeg-devel traffic gets
> filed into spam consistently. Also very annoying - I have missed 
> several
> patches this way. This is not specific to GMail, for me, so far.
> 

That's because mail from "unknown" hosts might get into spam frequently. 
You may have to explicitly whitelist the mailing list in your settings.

> If it's a trust thing, sure, we can blame Google or whoever, but I 
> think
> we should have a less cruddy experience for users of the largest email
> provider in the world, by default, rather just shrugging and saying 
> "sucks
> to be you, don't use GMail".
> 
> - Derek
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