[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Remove the ffserver program and the ffm muxer/demuxer

James Almer jamrial at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 23:07:28 EET 2016

On 11/28/2016 5:40 PM, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> On 28.11.2016 13:18, James Almer wrote:
>> [...] shit [...] shit [...] shit [...] shit. It's extremely disrespectful.
> Everyone reading your mail gets a clear picture of who is disrespectful.

Making my annoyance at the subject known using the above words is not the
same thing as being disrespectful to others.

> Please re-read our code of conduct and follow it in the future.
> I don't know why you are so enraged about this topic, but I assume that's
> because you are frustrated about how ffserver has been allowed to continue
> using private APIs for a very long time.

You should probably read my emails before asking me to re-read them myself.
You'll find out why I'm enraged about this topic. I made it very clear.

> Believe it or not, but I share some of that frustration and thus am happy
> that it has been decided to no longer let ffserver block the library cleanup.
> So if it's still using those private APIs at the next major bump, it will
> sadly have to go.
> However, there is no valid technical reason to remove ffserver earlier or
> if it gets fixed, which is why this should not be done, in particular if
> other developers are still working on it.
> That's the long and short of it.

The long and short of it is: You didn't show up when this was up to discussion.
You're showing up now, late, at the very moment the months old final decision
was going to be made effective, and pretending to alter and override the agreed
course of action, using malicious arguments to favor of your position in the

Where were you and Nicolas last July? Where were you during the past years when
requests for developers were made?

> I'm dismayed to see that this discussion has devolved into useless flaming.
> I have no desire nor intent to take part in it and urge everyone else to
> refrain from participating in that kind of behavior as well.

And I'm dismayed at how you and Nicolas think it's "rational" to abuse the
goodwill of people and use it against them as arguments to favor your own
stance and agenda in this subject.

Neither you or Nicolas are working on ffserver, or will be working on it if you
get your way. All you're doing is proving that anything can be done in this
project if you're persistent enough, and outlast the other side in arguments.

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