[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Remove the ffserver program and the ffm muxer/demuxer

Nicolas George george at nsup.org
Mon Nov 28 17:24:45 EET 2016

L'octidi 8 frimaire, an CCXXV, James Almer a écrit :
> Threats? The only thing i see are reminders of what should have happened
> earlier and will happen soon, as discussed an announced.

Reminding of unpleasant things over which you have total control, that
is called threats.

"You will burn yourself." -> this is a warning.
"I will burn you." -> that is a threat.

Since ffserver will not remove itself, it is indeed a threat.

> No, i want a project decision to finally go through. I don't give a shit
> about the program. If you see me "emotional" is because i can't believe my
> eyes when i see all this shit happening only after the decision was made
> and not when actual development work was requested, or when the *final*
> discussion was taking place.
> You all should have shown then. You didn't.

You act quite emotional over something you "don't give a shit" about.

> Every patch and change that's being done now are direct consequence and
> effect of the decision to drop ffserver. It has remained broken,
> unmaintained and bitrotting for years but now that we have reached the
> fateful day, ffserver is suddenly more important than the h264 decoder.

This is a "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy.

The recent patches and the proposal to remove ffserver are not a
consequence of each other but both consequence of this single fact: the
internal APIs that ffserver is (ab)using are being changed and it is
blocking the merges.

The patches unblock the merges, therefore the removal is no longer

> This patch *should* have been committed weeks ago

I will remind you that most contributors work on the project on their
free time. If you care so much about ffserver's code (apparently you do,
or you would not be arguing so much about it), you could have sponsored
them to work on it earlier.


  Nicolas George
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