[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Remove the ffserver program and the ffm muxer/demuxer

Michael Niedermayer michael at niedermayer.cc
Sun Nov 27 20:46:34 EET 2016

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 07:30:24PM +0100, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 06:49:35PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 04:57:36PM +0100, Clément Bœsch wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 04:25:18PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > ffserver had 14 commits to it in about the last month
> > > 
> > > That's also pretty close to the number of commits in the last years.
> > > 
> > > Good will in the last weeks is not enough of a technical
> > > merit/justification to prevent the removal of junk code scheduled for
> > > deletion for a long time now.
> > 
> > why do you call it junk ?
> because it's highly dependent on internal stuff, very limited, completely
> untested, unmaintained for several years but still contains a ton of code.
> > and the sheduling for deletion was conditional on it not being fixed
> > IIRC.
> > Why the hurry to remove it while people work on fixing it ?
> > its not blocking anything ATM AFAIK
> There is no hurry, but piling up a bunch patches to fix small things just
> to use it as an argument to say "hey look now it's maintained" in order to
> save it from being killed is really annoying. The people interested in it
> had years to act.

> You can fix a ton of little things in it, but unless the fundamental
> problems are addressed (ZERO internal API usage + at least partial FATE
> coverage) it's pointless

of course the goal is ZERO internal API usage + at least partial FATE
Well in fact the lack of fate tests have been the primary reason
why i didnt fix some of the API issues years ago. I felt uneasy
changing it without regression tests

> and will be seen as yet another case of "KEEP
> EVERYTHING FOREVER" toxic mentality.

The opposit is toxic too


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