[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

[shen long]

Take it easy man, I'm just stating facts and similing while I type.
And we're talking about the future development. I love anarchy and
proper forks, libav is not one of them. I don't mind being banned for
saying this though.

 Maybe we all should blame Debian instead, the grandmother of distros
has caused me many troubles as an end user. So all debian derivatives
should just avoid using debian as a primary source.

On 9/1/15, Ganesh Ajjanagadde <gajjanag at mit.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:38 AM, shen long <wdlkmpx at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm sorry to bother you, but that's not how I see it. In fact this is
>> the output of the fffmpeg binary I was using for about a year and a
>> half.
>>
>> ----------
>> # ffmpeg
>> ffmpeg version 0.8.6-4:0.8.6-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2013
>> the Libav developers
>>   built on Apr  2 2013 17:00:59 with gcc 4.6.3
>> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
>> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in
>> a future release. Please use avconv instead.
>> Hyper fast Audio and Video encoder
>> usage: ffmpeg [options] [[infile options] -i infile]... {[outfile
>> options] outfile}...
>>
>> Use -h to get full help or, even better, run 'man ffmpeg'
>> ----------
>>
>> You're not being honest to yourself, it was a war because of conflicting
>> names.
>>
>> Distributions made a political decision, what Debian did was purely
>> political. Although their biggest mistake was completely ruin the
>> cdrtools package, making burning in Linux an unbearable pain.
>>
>> So think about it, you're betraying libav by supporting ffmpeg. There
>> is a reason why libav has been ignoring almost completely ffmpeg.
>> Basically their users have forced them to pick some ffmpeg code, it
>> was not their free will.
>>
>> And as a user may libav RIP.
>
> Do you even understand the meaning of "not feeding the flames"?
> Or off-topic for that matter?
> This is a development mailing list, not meant for political bickering.
> I would have at least tolerated this stuff if it had some bearing on
> ffmpeg's future.
> At the moment, you are just slinging mud around, hoping someone gets
> angry enough to argue with you.
> The internet has many forums for such venting and useless posts.
> A development mailing list is NOT one of them.
>
>>
>> On 9/1/15, wm4 <nfxjfg at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:11:14 -0500
>>> shen long <wdlkmpx at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This discussion again hehe. I'm just a user and I don't think a
>>>> reunification is possible, I was reading the gentoo forums and it
>>>
>>> If you think that, keep it to yourself.
>>>
>>> What the hell do you think we're trying to do? The split development is
>>> bad for everyone. It can't continue like this. It needs to be resolved.
>>> Everyone should make an effort to make it possible.
>>>
>>>> became a flame war between users, most of them bashing Libav. Though I
>>>> like the name "libav" better.
>>>>
>>>> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1010096.html
>>>>
>>>> The way Libav started, it was clear that it was not a fork, but a
>>>> replacement, something meant to put and end to ffmpeg immediately, so
>>>> it needed a purely political position. A fork must rename its
>>>> applications AND libraries, so both original and deritive works can
>>>> coexist peacefully and users can choose what is best for them.
>>>
>>> No. It consisted of developers who wanted to develop, not fight against
>>> the utterly broken maintenance and development practices that ruled
>>> FFmpeg at the time. (It has gotten a little bit better since then. For
>>> example, when Libav started doing proper releases, FFmpeg followed
>>> suite in reaction.)
>>>
>>> By the way, most of the "outside" discussions I've read about FFmpeg
>>> vs. Libav are just nonsensical. I suggest not taking them as a real
>>> source of information.
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