[FFmpeg-devel] Donations and what happens with them

[Alex Converse]

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Arpi <arpi at thot.banki.hu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On 27 January 2011 22:31, compn <tempn at twmi.rr.com> wrote:
>> > so you guys want michael to not be leader.
>> > and michael wants mans and diego to not be root if he is not leader.
>> >
>> > is that it basically? thats the entire list of demands on both sides ?
>> > doesnt seem so bad.
>>
>> That's what I thought after reading these latest emails too. (Though
>> Michael did not mention Diego when he said "and i refuse to continue
>> to work under mans as root if iam not leader." )
>
> Diego's burial will be fund by the foundation, dont you remember? :)
> I'm personally against Diego doing ANYTHING regarding to mplayer or ffmpeg.
>
> I was not against Koth, but by reading his mail today i've changed my mind :(
> (I was in doubt he actually supported this mess)
>
>> Here are some ideas to maybe move forward:
>>
>> People
>> ------
>> Michael steps down as FFmpeg _leader_.
>> M?ns steps down as _root_.
>>
>> Trees
>> -----
>> (I hate to bring it up, but ... ) The best compromise concerning
>> mpcodecs I've seen was put it on a branch and have some sort of
>> porting marathon. I think lu_zero suggested it.
>
> I have to agree, as author of libmpcodecs, it is a messy code and
> somehow broken API, it should not go into ffmpeg as-is, but the
> plugins (the good ones, not the useless/joke ones) should be
> ported properly into ffmpeg-s filter architecture.
> I would be volunteering to do/help this process.
> Btw i've developed some new libmpcodecs plugins last year, which
> i didnt sent to the MLs.
> (i was impatient to bikeshed with diego on code indenting...
> btw this whole indentation rules/enforcement should gone, it's
> nonsense, i dont know any coder who uses consistent indentation
> over all his code... only beginner programmers do, sometimes.
> if anyone wants to read the code in nice indentation, he can
> anytime run a code formatter with his favourite settings)
>
>> Sync the two git trees on git.ffmpeg.org and git.videolan.org.
>
> there should not be 2 git repos, Mans' fork should gone, or at
> least be moved/renamed to a new server where he may be root :)
>
>> Procedure
>> ---------
>> Some people seem to be upset that they can't commit (in the svn sense
>> of the word) to the git.ffmpeg repo even though they are (file)
>
> Wonder?
>
>> maintainers. So that needs to be resolved. In the Announcement thread
>> it was stated more committers (svn definition) could be added later.
>> Would a solution be: grant file maintainers write access to the repos
>> again, but maintain the rule (from the Announcement) that all changes
>> must be reviewed by another developer who is deemed knowledgeable on
>> the topic. (Review on the ffmpeg-devel mailinglist, so that it's in
>> the mailinglist archive.)
>
> I think the old commit model should be restired, it worked for over 10 years.
> Everyone may get commit rights after a few valuable and perfect patches.
> At least trust hobbist people, if you dont pay them!
> It is not their goal to fuck up the code, they all work to improve it.
>
>> Comments? Critiques? Any other issues that _need_ to be resolved
>> before FFmpeg can continue as one big ha^H^H^H^H^H^H ?
>
> I was there from the first days of ffmpeg, when Fabrice was not called
> Fabrice, and when he wrote the first opensource divx 3.11 decoder...
> It's very sad to see where did Diego & friends bring this project :(((((((
>

And what have you done in the past seven years?

This is a meritocracy. You stopped earning merit years ago; time to
stop spending.

Regards,

Alex Converse

P.S. How's MPlayer G2 coming along?