[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Dynamic plugins loading

[Anssi Hannula]

On 14.11.2010 20:53, Jason Garrett-Glaser wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula at iki.fi> wrote:
>> On 14.11.2010 18:28, compn wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:43:36 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:01:50AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>>> On 14.11.2010 05:23, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:34:56AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>>>>> On 13.11.2010 02:52, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:05:50AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 13.11.2010 00:26, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:48:59PM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 02.11.2010 15:09, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a shame that FFmpeg is not shipped in such
>>>>>>>>>>>>> important distributions just because of this reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many people here have even heard of meego and how many use Fedora
>>>>>>>>>>>> (on their desktops)?  Nowadays FFmpeg is available in all mainstream
>>>>>>>>>>>> distributions, it's just the fringe ones that are missing, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=FFmpeg_distribution_status
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, if you have information to contribute to that package, let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, here goes:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> == Mandriva ==
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The packages in 2010.1 and later have the aac decoder and encoder
>>>>>>>>>>> disabled. The packages in 2010.0 and older are uncrippled.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know why they disabled them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because faad is not allowed in Mandriva, AAC decoding is presumed as
>>>>>>>>> unallowed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> do you have some link to related discussion or a changelog for their ffmpeg
>>>>>>>> package?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the commit that disabled aac, but there is not much info there:
>>>>>>> http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages?view=revision&revision=548077
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a mailing list post:
>>>>>>> http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-05/msg00374.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I asked why he didn't disable everything else as well, he said that
>>>>>>> someone should tell him what is allowed and what is disallowed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> someone should show him that patent about XOR or that one about clicking
>>>>>> buttons
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, obviously he doesn't want to enable anything that hasn't been
>>>>> allowed in Mandriva, unless he is told otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> hmm, do you also have a link handy to discussions that lead to faa* removial?
>>>> thats interresting because if its not patents but copyright issues which is
>>>> actually more likely with faad/faac then this would not apply to ffmpeg and
>>>> wouldnt be a reason to disable aac support in ffmpeg
>>
>> It is indeed for patent issues
> 
> So then why do they include all the other ffmpeg decoders?  AAC is
> practically a non-issue; it's one of the cheapest multimedia formats
> in the world to license, with the *cap* being a mere $30k, if I recall
> correctly.  Surely *all* of the others would be more of a worry?
> 
> This is stupid.

Yes. AFAICS it is just that no one has cared about those others thus far
(or the people who care don't know about the issues).

-- 
Anssi Hannula