[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Dynamic plugins loading

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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:43:36 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:01:50AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> On 14.11.2010 05:23, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:34:56AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> >> On 13.11.2010 02:52, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:05:50AM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> >>>> On 13.11.2010 00:26, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:48:59PM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 02.11.2010 15:09, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a shame that FFmpeg is not shipped in such
>> >>>>>>>> important distributions just because of this reason.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> How many people here have even heard of meego and how many use Fedora
>> >>>>>>> (on their desktops)?  Nowadays FFmpeg is available in all mainstream
>> >>>>>>> distributions, it's just the fringe ones that are missing, see
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=FFmpeg_distribution_status
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> BTW, if you have information to contribute to that package, let me know.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ok, here goes:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> == Mandriva ==
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The packages in 2010.1 and later have the aac decoder and encoder
>> >>>>>> disabled. The packages in 2010.0 and older are uncrippled.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Does anyone know why they disabled them?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Because faad is not allowed in Mandriva, AAC decoding is presumed as
>> >>>> unallowed.
>> >>>
>> >>> do you have some link to related discussion or a changelog for their ffmpeg
>> >>> package?
>> >>
>> >> Here's the commit that disabled aac, but there is not much info there:
>> >> http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages?view=revision&revision=548077
>> >>
>> >> Here's a mailing list post:
>> >> http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-05/msg00374.php
>> >>
>> >> When I asked why he didn't disable everything else as well, he said that
>> >> someone should tell him what is allowed and what is disallowed.
>> > 
>> > someone should show him that patent about XOR or that one about clicking
>> > buttons
>> 
>> Well, obviously he doesn't want to enable anything that hasn't been
>> allowed in Mandriva, unless he is told otherwise.
>
>hmm, do you also have a link handy to discussions that lead to faa* removial?
>thats interresting because if its not patents but copyright issues which is
>actually more likely with faad/faac then this would not apply to ffmpeg and
>wouldnt be a reason to disable aac support in ffmpeg

this will probably be solved quicker if someone reports a bug or
posts a mail to mandriva, instead of reading old discussions and
cvslogs.

i was unable to find mandriva legal information. maybe best bet
is to file a bugzilla at https://qa.mandriva.com

some bugzilla posts on the subject:

https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=38863
-------- Comment #1 From G?tz Waschk on 2008-03-13 18:23:14 CEST
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The aac decoder is not included for software patent reasons. You'll
have to get the xine-faad package from a third party repository.

https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=38160
-------- Comment #4 From G?tz Waschk on 2008-02-26 15:45:28 CEST
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Sergio, if you are working for Mandriva QA, you should be able to talk
to Mandriva Legal about this. faad support was disabled because it is
patented.


https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=59567
-------- Comment #5 From Ahmad Samir (triage team) on 2010-05-31
18:30:20 CEST -------- 	

I'd say it's still invalid, faad isn't in the mdv repos for patent
issues (mplayer support for faad will be disabled in the mdv build,
again as it's patent encumbered).


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