[FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg status on WinCE
Måns Rullgård
mans
Mon Aug 3 10:38:14 CEST 2009
?smail D?nmez <ismail at namtrac.org> writes:
> 2009/8/3 M?ns Rullg?rd <mans at mansr.com>:
>> ?smail D?nmez <ismail at namtrac.org> writes:
>>
>>> 2009/8/3 M?ns Rullg?rd <mans at mansr.com>:
>>>> ?smail D?nmez <ismail at namtrac.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> 2009/8/2 M?ns Rullg?rd <mans at mansr.com>:
>>>>>> ?smail D?nmez <ismail at namtrac.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/8/2 M?ns Rullg?rd <mans at mansr.com>:
>>>>>>>> I didn't say POSIX, understanding how hard that can be, I said C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still with one active developer thats just not possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I take that as a sign that nobody really cares then.
>>>>>
>>>>> WinCE itself is ugly piece of shit, I am glad someone created cegcc to
>>>>> help for us mere mortals messing with WinCE. In the end this is all
>>>>> free software development...
>>>>
>>>> I am well aware of the free software development model. ?Nevertheless,
>>>> there are limits to the levels of crap I am willing to support. ?If
>>>> people are genuinely interested in building apps for wince, they
>>>> should help out with cegcc/mingw32ce, not stuff other projects full of
>>>> hacks. ?If they don't care enough to do this, I really think we're
>>>> wasting our time supporting this joke of a system.
>>>
>>> The only way to avoid hacks would be fixing arm-cegcc (WinCE POSIX
>>> emulation port) and that would require deep knowledge of gcc, arm &
>>> wince. I don't think there are much people with such capabilities. So
>>> its not about not caring.
>>
>> How would adding those function stubs there be any harder than adding
>> them to FFmpeg?
>
> arm-cegcc is incomplete, adding the stubs won't make FFmpeg compile at
> all since its non-functional in other parts. arm-mingw32ce is on the
> other hand is complete and these stubs does not belong there since the
> original WinCE SDK does not provide them. See the problem now?
Yes, I see the problem: the mingw32ce authors refuse to implement the
C standard.
I don't care what the MS SDK has or hasn't got. If you want to write
C programs, you need a C compiler and runtime environment.
Apparently, mingw32ce does not provide this. Ergo, some programs will
not work. Tough luck.
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M?ns Rullg?rd
mans at mansr.com
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