[FFmpeg-devel] Review request - ra288.{c,h} ra144.{c,h}

Vitor Sessak vitor1001
Tue Sep 16 20:23:19 CEST 2008


Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 07:49:41PM +0200, Vitor Sessak wrote:
>> Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 11:29:08PM +0200, Vitor Sessak wrote:
>>>> Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 08:17:18PM +0200, Vitor Sessak wrote:
>>>>>> Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 05:55:16PM +0200, Vitor Sessak wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> static int ra288_decode_frame(AVCodecContext * avctx, void *data,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               int *data_size, const uint8_t * buf,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               int buf_size)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     int16_t *out = data;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     int i, j;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     RA288Context *ractx = avctx->priv_data;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     GetBitContext gb;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     if (buf_size < avctx->block_align) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         av_log(avctx, AV_LOG_ERROR,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                "Error! Input buffer is too small [%d<%d]\n",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                buf_size, avctx->block_align);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         return 0;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     if (*data_size < 32*5*2)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         return -1;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     init_get_bits(&gb, buf, avctx->block_align * 8);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     for (i=0; i < 32; i++) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         float gain = amptable[get_bits(&gb, 3)];
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         int cb_coef = get_bits(&gb, 6 + (i&1));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         decode(ractx, gain, cb_coef);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for (j=0; j < 5; j++)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             *(out++) = 8 * ractx->sp_block[36 + j];
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if float output works already, then this could output floats, if not then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this could use lrintf()
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried the float output (with the attached patch) and it didn't work. 
>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Using lrint() changes slightly the output (PSNR about 99), is it expected?
>>>>>>>>>>> yes, it does round differently (=more correctly)
>>>>>>>>>> Too correct maybe. PSNR to binary decoder with SVN:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.15 PSNR:112.70 bytes:   990720/  1013760
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.04 PSNR:122.74 bytes:   368640/   368640
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.07 PSNR:118.84 bytes:   460800/   458752
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.31 PSNR:106.24 bytes:  6451200/  6451200
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Using lrint()
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.70 PSNR: 99.33 bytes:   990720/  1013760
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.70 PSNR: 99.35 bytes:   368640/   368640
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.70 PSNR: 99.35 bytes:   460800/   458752
>>>>>>>>>> stddev:    0.75 PSNR: 98.76 bytes:  6451200/  6451200
>>>>>>>>> yes, the rounding is more accurate, and differs by +-1 50% of the time from
>>>>>>>>> the binary decoder, sqrt(0.5) ~ 0.7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want a proof that it is better, you should compare the original
>>>>>>>>> pcm that is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> X -> encoder -> binary decoder -> Y
>>>>>>>>>              -> FF decoder ->Z
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and look at how the X-Y and X-Z change relative to each other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also you would see a similar PSNR change relative to the binary decoder if
>>>>>>>>> you would output floats.
>>>>>>>> I've already tried comparing PSNR to the original input when I was 
>>>>>>>> looking for a way to test float codecs in FATE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vitor at vitor$ ffmpeg -i luckynightmono2.ra -ac 1 -ar 8000 test.wav
>>>>>>>> vitor at vitor$ ffmpeg -i luckynight.wav -ac 1 -ar 8000 test2.wav
>>>>>>>> vitor at vitor$ tiny_psnr test.wav test2.wav 2 0 44
>>>>>>>> stddev: 5981.39 PSNR: 20.78 bytes:   990720/   967662
>>>>>>>> vitor at vitor$ tiny_psnr test.wav test2.wav 2 2 44
>>>>>>>> stddev: 5982.77 PSNR: 20.78 bytes:   990718/   967662
>>>>>>>> vitor at vitor$ tiny_psnr test.wav test2.wav 2 100 44
>>>>>>>> stddev: 6012.76 PSNR: 20.74 bytes:   990620/   967662
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And by looking at results, if I change the "skip bytes" parameter I 
>>>>>>>> don't get much change in PSNR. For me, this is a signal that the value I 
>>>>>>>> got is meaningless (since it don't change a lot if I compare it with 
>>>>>>>> different data). I asked about it in IRC and people told me that PSNR 
>>>>>>>> didn't worked very well to LPC vocoders. Sample in 
>>>>>>>> http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/real/AC-28_8/ .
>>>>>>> considering that the claimed encoder input has
>>>>>>> 10668716 bytes of 44.1khz at stereo
>>>>>>> and that /2/44100*8000 is ~967684
>>>>>>> and the ra288 decoder output has 990764 bytes i cant help but wonder
>>>>>>> why, but of course this is incompareable. PSNR or otherwise
>>>>>> Yes, the files have different sizes. That's why I started poking with 
>>>>>> "skip bytes" and tried to cut the files. But I didn't succeeded in 
>>>>>> making they match whatever I did.
>>>>> how has the .ra file been generated?
>>>>> what happens with a 2x as long input file? does the size difference
>>>>> stay constant or grow?
>>>>>
>>>>> what does the binary decoder produce for it? is that also too big?
>>>> Original     wav:  967706 bytes
>>>> FFmpeg   decoder:  990764 bytes
>>>> Original decoder: 1013804 bytes
>>>>
>>>> Go figure...
>>> the decoder outputs 3 seconds more than what is in the claimed original.
>>> How does it sound? is the audio stretched to the bigger length are there
>>> 3 seconds of distortion or silence somewhere?
>> Original     wav:  967706 bytes
>> FFmpeg   decoder:  990764 bytes   1 second  of silence in the end
>> Original decoder: 1013804 bytes   3 seconds of silence in the end
>>
>> Anyway, nothing of that explains the PSNR discrepancy...
> 
> ok, so lets forget about the PSNR, and rather try a simpler test for
> the accuracy, just try to cast a float to an int and try lrintf()
> and print the differens, or sum or squared differences, it should be
> obvious which is more accurate.

The problem is not just when using PSNR, but I also fail to see any 
similarity between the two files in a hex editor. I'd say that it is 
very unlikely that using lrintf() would worsen the quality (and even if 
it does, such a small change would be completely inaudible in such a low 
quality codec). So I'd change to lrintf() and put a comment explaining 
the situation. Are you fine with this?

-Vitor





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