[FFmpeg-devel] Broken third party software

Frans de Boer frans
Sun Sep 14 23:55:37 CEST 2008

For Mans I start at the top: I made mistakes, but you....well see the
reactions of others.

On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 21:50 +0100, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
> Frans de Boer <frans at fransdb.nl> writes:
> > Ok, It seems that my messages have stirred up some dust. except two
> > typical - in my opinion - emotional engineers reactions I can understand
> > most reactions.
> Not only are you demanding, now you're condescending too.
> > Yes, if I had the knowledge I would volunteer, but I never used svn
> > before but only followed directions on the various web pages whenever it
> > was required. Why would you put those directions there, if you assume
> > that everyone must have intimate knowledge of svn? Since svn is the ONLY
> > way to get the FFmpeg source, you might consider not using such
> > assumption because the FFmpeg project - for viable reasons - can't
> > provide anything else.
> You can use a distribution package.  Or is that too complicated as
> well?  Should we congratulate you for finding the power button on the
> computer?
> > So, yes: announcing like it's done now, is a step in the right
> > direction. At least now I know what is the latest backward compatible
> > svn release. And since I also have learned - out of necessity ;) - how
> > to update (up or down) towards r15261, I can apply it.
> > Suggestion: Add the comment 'svn update -r 15261' to restrict to libav*
> > version 51 (until today I was not even aware of such a version number).
> >
> > Oh, one more thing: In my world it is common to top-reply (and I am
> Then we don't like your world.  Please go back there, and don't come
> here again.
> > doing this for almost 29 years). But now I know that the FFmpeg
> I see you're attempting a proof by doing-it-for-a-long-time approach.
> That doesn't work in this world.
> > project likes bottom-replies, I will respect that and hope that some
> > people might learn someday that there are also other disciplines in
> > this world.
> You must be confused.  Which world are you talking about, ours or
> yours?  They are, apparently, quite different.
> > and....show me where I wrote "I demand". For some of you: Please,
> It is easily possible to make a demand without actually using the word
> "demand".
> > try to read a little better and refrain from your personal
> > interpretations.
> You started it.  You came barging in like a wild boar, telling us how
> we should do things, offering neither code nor money in return.
> It is people like you who give FFmpeg a bad reputation.  If you and
> your ilk adopted a more likeable attitude, we wouldn't have to be so
> harsh in our replies.

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