[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] Warn about PAFF & Spatial

Serguei Miridonov mirsev
Thu Jul 24 03:48:10 CEST 2008


On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Mark Buechler wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Michael Niedermayer
> <michaelni at gmx.at>
>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:44:26AM -0700, Serguei Miridonov wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:45:16AM -0700, Serguei Miridonov 
wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:02:01AM -0700, Serguei
> > > > > > Miridonov
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > > > > > If i knew where the problem is exactly i would fix
> > > > > > > > it. Besides i honestly dont care about PAFF & MBAFF
> > > > > > > > at all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael, I do not ask you why just because this is a
> > > > > > > developing list. But could you please post a few links
> > > > > > > which you think best explain pro and contra of 24/p
> > > > > > > video? For me 60/i video looks much much smoother than
> > > > > > > 24/p. On TV or computer monitor -- does not matter.
> > > > > > > So,if 24/p is so good, what I do wrong with 24/p video
> > > > > > > captured by my camcorder?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > then use 60/p
> > > > >
> > > > > Camcorder does not support that. So?
> > > >
> > > > Complain to the company that made it ...
> > >
> > > You are so kind. Thank you.
> >
> > What did you expect?
> > Something like:
> > "Ill spend 1+ weeks and fix the bugs that i dont care about at
> > all" ?
> >
> >
> > Why dont you fix the bug? Or help cleaning up h264.c if first is
> > too hard?
> >
> > And seriously, if enough people complain about the lack of proper
> > progressive support in camcorders, maybe the industry will
> > eventually listen.
> > And its a good idea even with all the *AFF code working.
> >
> > [...]
>
> You don't give yourself enough credit. I have every confidence you
> could have it fixed in 6 days if you tried.

Mark, please, do not start the flame war. I'm sure Michael is the best 
ffmpeg developer who knows H.264 better than anyone else here. I 
respect what he has done so far and I'm glad we have at least 
progressive stuff really working. My only complain was his view on 
the interlaced stuff (see above). I have asked only info how to make 
24/p footage better looking, as I do not like jerky video at 24 fps. 
That's it.

Michael, please, do not take it too seriously. Just give us a clue if 
you can. Complaining to big companies is not a good idea, you know. 
Especially for the stuff like 60/p. I'm not even sure if this format 
will be standard soon because it requires not only much bps but also 
more sensitive image sensors which always is a problem for small 
consumer products. So, if you know how to make 24/p stuff to look 
good, please, post a link.

Serguei.






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